So you agree that civil court requires far less proof and is more based on probability.
I never said otherwise.
You're the one who said there is no burden of proof at all.
You're not about to say that the burden of proof for believing anything ever is "beyond a reasonable doubt", are you?
Because that's obviously idiotic and you wouldn't even be able to pretend you really believed that for any length of time.
Anyone can think whatever they want. Heck Frankfooter believes the assassination attempt was a hoax ffs. That's not really the point here.
"Beyond a reasonable doubt" helps to ensure that someone is not wrongfully convicted.
Yes!
Exactly.
It's a very strict standard for a very specific reason to check the power of the State in terms of depriving someone of life and liberty.
It's not for everyday use, but is rather extremely high and exacting due to the overwhelming power of the State.
So while you believe that someone is guilty regardless of the absence of proof and the court ruling, imagine a society that convicts people simply based on "what someone thinks happened"? Follow that through.
Who said anything about convicting Trump based on this?
Or anyone?
That would be ridiculous and extremely dangerous for society.
Therefore, if you believe in the criminal justice system, then criminal court rulings need to be respected even if you don't agree with them.
Totally agreed.
But respecting the court decision has nothing to do with whether or not someone gets to say Trump is a rapist.
Other than, of course, the State.
Civil court rulings are a different animal altogether and there is far more leeway on both sides. The point I have been making is that due to the difference between those two judicial systems, and based on the bias present from the judge, to the prosecutor to the media, it's no surprise that the court rules in Carroll's favour.
That is not
remotely the point you have been making.
You've been saying that people can't call Trump a rapist because the jury in the Carroll case did not find him liable for rape under the laws of New York State.
It's a silly position that requires you to believe some pretty crazy things.
For instance, see below.
You keep posting this like it is some kind of winning argument.
Except the jury didn't. So that word salad you keep posting is missing some key ingredients.
Just because you keep repeating lies doesn't make them true.
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