Israel at war
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I am clear that there are lots of Jewish groups I back, IJVCanada, IfNotNow, B'tselem, Jewish Voices for Peace and that I back Jill Stein as candidate for the US.
I am very clear in the difference between zionists like you and the Jewish people. Only 40% of north american Jews self identify as zionist, Shazi. You are just an extremist group that backs genocide and colonialism, for you to argue that you speak for Jews is antisemitic.
Deal with it.
So you only believe there is apartheid Israel.
Got it.
That labels you as a war criminal.
Translation of the tweet into the language of truth - "Hamas will, of course, be making and preparing for attacks designed to upend any peace process, so by claiming any response by the Israelis to those actions will be designed to end the talks, maybe we can dissuade the Israelis from taking appropriate measures against our terrorists."
This war only ends when Hamas is deposed by the Palestinians themselves, and Hamas leaders behind Oct 7 are either dead or surrendered for murder trials in Israel/war crime trials.
This war will only end when Israel kills or drives out the rest of the Palestinians.
That's what the war is about.
Or when the international community uses force to back the ICJ, ICC and USC rulings and resolutions.
You asked for a definition and I gave it to you.
Your turn to answer. How would you characterize Jews and the Jewish race without mentioning Zionism, i.e., what is your opinion of them?
Palestine is recognized as a sovereign state by over 100 countries in the UN but is NOT recognized as such by the overall body/General Assembly of the UN. That is evidenced by the fact that they have only observer status and not full status. Full status would mean that the UNGA recognizes Palestine as a full member. That is not the case. The UN is the body that speaks for the world and as such, it would not be accurate to say that Palestine is an actual and recognized sovereign state by the world.
An additional addendum to this would be:
Among the G20, nine countries (Argentina, Brazil, China, India, Indonesia, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, and Turkey, as well as permanent invitee Spain) have recognized Palestine as a state,[note 1] while ten countries (Australia, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Mexico, South Korea, the United Kingdom, and the United States) have not.[note 2] Although these countries generally support some form of a two-state solution to the conflict, they take the position that their recognition of a Palestinian state is conditioned to direct negotiations between Israel and the PA.
Wrong. I believe that there is a Palestine (unlike you, I accept reality), but they are not recognized by the UNGA as a sovereign state. That is why they only have observer status. If the UNGA recognized them as a sovereign state, then they would have full status. That's how the UN works.
I bet you even have some Jewish friends. (Guaranteed that you don't spew your hate speech to them like you do hear.)
You know what Geno, even Archie Bunker had a couple of black friends, but nobody believed it when he said he wasn't racist.
So Shazi, is Gaza and the West Bank in Palestine or do you think they are in Israel?
So then you admit that Israel is illegally occupying Palestine and must end the occupation and pay restitution as demanded by the ICJ.