Stolen BMW crashes into Toronto transit bus; several injured
- Thread starter Shaquille Oatmeal
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Thank the easy parole system, 1 or 2 were considered violent criminals.
I was taking my car to my mechanic today. He's a few blocks west of Bathurst and Wilson and I'm a bit east of Yonge. It's a 10 minute drive for me. It took me over an hour. Bathurst and Wilson was blocked off in all four directions. And this over 6 hours after the fact.
Stolen BMW going so fast he spun the bus around.
Stolen BMW going so fast he spun the bus around.
I just assume that half of Toronto is out on bail at any time.
I'm with you on this one, innocent people could've died.
These assholes are human scum. Now they're taking up hospital beds and probably millions of $$$ in an effort to keep them alive. Rot in hell you pieces of shit!
Maybe they'll sue the TTC and the City of Toronto.
I'm not 100% sure that this is correct. It came from the Toronto Police Association, which has been known to spread lies to further their cause....
But, I think it might be a good time to look at our bail system. It is a challenge. First, we need to remember that not everyone who has been arrested is actually guilty, and being held in remand is not always the best solution. Now, that being said, I think we can all agree that violent crimes probably should not get bail (though there are circumstances where maybe it is alright). Robbery, depending on how it happened, kind of falls in that grey area. Car theft, which is usually a non-violent crime (excluding car jackings) would likely see a suspect get bail...
There are no easy answers here. We see in the US that people get thrown into remand for months to years for trivial charges, with some dying in there. Like this dude:
Kalief Browder - Wikipedia
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Now, I'd hope we'd never get to that situation, but if nobody got bail, overcrowding would make places like the Metro West Detention Centre significantly worse than they already are....
I agree that they should get bail on the first arrest but if you commit a crime on bail then you should be not be eligible anymore.I'm not 100% sure that this is correct. It came from the Toronto Police Association, which has been known to spread lies to further their cause....
But, I think it might be a good time to look at our bail system. It is a challenge. First, we need to remember that not everyone who has been arrested is actually guilty, and being held in remand is not always the best solution. Now, that being said, I think we can all agree that violent crimes probably should not get bail (though there are circumstances where maybe it is alright). Robbery, depending on how it happened, kind of falls in that grey area. Car theft, which is usually a non-violent crime (excluding car jackings) would likely see a suspect get bail...
There are no easy answers here. We see in the US that people get thrown into remand for months to years for trivial charges, with some dying in there. Like this dude:
Kalief Browder - Wikipedia
Now, I'd hope we'd never get to that situation, but if nobody got bail, overcrowding would make places like the Metro West Detention Centre significantly worse than they already are....
Also, keep in mind that in most cases those on bail have a surety standing up in court and agreeing to ensure that the accused follows their bail conditions. If the surety fails to do this and is either willfully blind or negligent in this duty they should be charged as well. A cash bond is often not much of a deterrent, often it comes from crime proceeds anyways.
Also sometimes I wonder if cops are taking bail seriously as well. Many of the 22 involved in last week's shooting were on ankle bracelets. Having that many on ankle bracelets in the wee hours of the morning, in the same area didn't raise any red flags?
Also sometimes I wonder if cops are taking bail seriously as well. Many of the 22 involved in last week's shooting were on ankle bracelets. Having that many on ankle bracelets in the wee hours of the morning, in the same area didn't raise any red flags?
But were they also members of an oppressed minority? Surely we must take that into consideration...
The problem is there's so many violent criminals in the GTA, but they can't keep them all in jail. This is really fucking sad situation, when you consider the vast majority of people are law abiding citizens.
The other "unfortunate" thing is, the cops know who these thugs are. They know the ones who are members of gangs, the ones carrying weapons. But since they've eliminated carding, police have no power to detain or search the perps who are packing heat. Proactive policing has been eliminated. So for the most part, what you're left with, is a system whereby the police wait until something happens, then try to pick up the pieces.
Welcome to the new reality...
Edit: Toronto police and the Ontario government have been asking the Feds for years, to crack down on violent criminals being released on bail. Love him or hate him, Poilievre will get a lot of votes, because people feel he'll actually do something about this huge problem. Trudeau's soft on crime approach, simply isn't working.
The other "unfortunate" thing is, the cops know who these thugs are. They know the ones who are members of gangs, the ones carrying weapons. But since they've eliminated carding, police have no power to detain or search the perps who are packing heat. Proactive policing has been eliminated. So for the most part, what you're left with, is a system whereby the police wait until something happens, then try to pick up the pieces.
Welcome to the new reality...
Edit: Toronto police and the Ontario government have been asking the Feds for years, to crack down on violent criminals being released on bail. Love him or hate him, Poilievre will get a lot of votes, because people feel he'll actually do something about this huge problem. Trudeau's soft on crime approach, simply isn't working.
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Solution: instead of one prisoner to a cell put 3 to a jail cell (similar crimes), that'll free up some cells, fuck human rights for these scum, let them live in a world that they created ,hopefully they'll kill each other of in those cramped quarters!!!!
Not really the cops fault. Its the federal government, the cops too are bitching they need to change some rules since its wasting their time and putting their lives in danger