Ontario’s corner stores allowed to sell alcohol as of today. What you need to know

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HotDogger

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Who actually shops at convenience stores? Their prices are insane. In a moment of sugar depravity I recently bought a snickers bar there. The price was ridiculous! Only people with poor planning skills and lacking in self discipline shop there. This is yet another attack on this class of society. Anyone with an ounce of common sense shops at reasonably priced stores like Walmart.
 

SchlongConery

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This is my fear. I can’t say it will happen, but it is something I’m afraid of happening. Until I see that it is not the case, I’m going to feel leery about it.

I have admitted on TERB before, I have a bit of a hate on for alcohol. Too many alcoholics in my life, my father has liver disease and yet still drinks and will end up drinking himself to death. His choice. Nothing I can do about it. He is a passive drunk.

My mom was a typical older woman wino before she died. Her hypocritical nature would really come out the more she drank. We had a very turbulent relationship based on her abuse of me as a child. She was extremely controlling. I don’t “blame” the alcohol but you just really saw her two faced nature between the first glass and the end of the second bottle.

My narcissistic abusive ex was a horrible drunk. Violent and out of control. Typical red pill asshole by the end which made it worse. COVID had him up all night drinking, watching YT podcasts having him believe he was the Top dog because he made close to 100k a year. He was the one that made it so I can’t stand the sickly sweet smell of alcohol coming out of a person’s pores. Those who know, know.

So I have my own issues with the stuff. I know they are my own. They are from past trauma and I don’t judge others. Or at least I try very hard to own my issues as mine and not judge. Not until they actually do something and then I blame the booze. I can be around responsible drinkers no problem. I personally do not touch the stuff. I don’t judge those who have one drink at dinner and then drive home. And have gone on plenty of vacations with friends who get polluted at an all inclusive and laugh while assisting them home.

So I guess I’m a little weird when it comes to the stuff. Hence my fear of drunk drivers. My father, my mother and my ex had no problem driving drunk and are just lucky they never got into an accident. My friends are responsible and have DDs or take Uber/lyft.

It almost a very bi-polar type of thinking, for lack of a better term. I just try very hard to own my issues with it as my own and not project it onto other people. If that makes sense.


 
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SchlongConery

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Store robberies are going to go threw the roof.


Now THAT I've yet to see! Must have one helluva arm onthose robbers! I've seen them going through the door with stolen merch but throwing it through the roof? Wow!
 
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Butler1000

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What you will see is the vast majority of the sales will be to people heading downtown and wanting a predrink on the TTC, people going to the park, sporting event predrink, after sports game(amateur) players grabbing one as they gab. Last minute get together pick up.

Sales close at 11pm so no post 3am drinking in the streets.

Alcoholics won't want to pay a premium price as a rule, nor ever not know their supply is stocked up.

And yes, maybe less DUI due to convenience. I hit a bunch of street festivals this year. A beer with my food would have been nice.
 

lomotil

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I think that allowing these expanded liquor sales is too little too late to make the enterprise profitable and the prime reason is that the diaspora has changed. The current diaspora shift is towards less alcohol consumption, at least the types that would make it profitable for your average convenience store . The type of Ontarians that would have made this change economically viable for the convenience stores are in their twilight, retire, or almost retired, dead or in retire ment homes. The “stoners’ have long since retired. The new wave of immigrants drinks a fraction of the alcohol consumption that the increasing extinct “ Ontarians “ that Ford the dealer is courting politically.
The regulations, recycling responsibilities, lack of variety, possibility of employing security guards and administration hassles make many convenience stores give pause to this option.
As I recall, Quebec City conveniences stores had grossly Inferior selections to what was available in the LCBO or the Beer Store.
 

onomatopoeia

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As I recall, Quebec City conveniences stores had grossly Inferior selections to what was available in the LCBO or the Beer Store.

For wine in Quebec convenience stores, (dépanner - it translates literally to 'to help out' or 'to tide over'), they generally had wines from France imported in casks and bottled in Quebec.

Our family frequently drank Cuvée des Patriotes, ('Vintage of the Patriots'), white in the 1970's. I don't think it's sold anymore, because I couldn't find a picture of a bottle online. It was kind of raw; aged about a couple of months, but it was 12%, and about $5 for 750 ml back in the day. If someone asked for it at a Quebec liquor store, the clerks would just laugh at them.
 

Jubee

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I suspect there will be a lot of cases of people accessing alcohol beyond the 11pm cut off point. When you're already drunk and want more and the 7-11 is around the corner what's stopping a drunken fool from grabbing a $18.69 six pack, slapping a $20 on the corner and saying keep the change?

Will it be "tank you come again?" ........or.........will it be "you cheap mudder fucker, I fuck your mother, give me change, you mudder fucker! I fuck your sister !"
 
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Ceiling Cat

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I'd rather the province get the profits from LCBO booze than corps like 7/11 profiting with jacked up prices.

The province is getting the profits, by moving to convenience store sales they are making more sales of alcohol products and taking in more tax revenue.
As I recall, Quebec City conveniences stores had grossly Inferior selections to what was available in the LCBO or the Beer Store.

Quebec convenience store has pretty much a generic selection of wines. Low priced mediocre quality. To get any good wines you have to go to a SAQ store in a shopping center, these places have the higher priced and higher quality products in alcohol and wines. The smaller stores carry all the popular alcohols but not the high end products. Then there is the warehouse stores where everything is on pallets and still in the boxes. You can get most brands of alcohol and wines, but if you want a $80 bottle of port you will have to go to the mall stores. The warehouse stores also have the bulk wines you have to bottle yourself from the tanks. Beer is only available at grocery stores and convenience stores.


As far as the availability of wine and beer in convenience stores causing more drunk drivers, that is not apparent in the Quebec experience.
 
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glamphotographer

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RIP, Johnny Gaudreau who was killed by a drunk driver. Please drink responsibly. And Fuck You DOFO! You fuckin boozer!

Johnny Hockey's wife reveals she is pregnant with their 3rd child.


 
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Callmerey

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I think I am expecting more crimes to take place because of this. Security can’t do anything anyway, store owners will be at a lot of risk.
 
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glamphotographer

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I think I am expecting more crimes to take place because of this. Security can’t do anything anyway, store owners will be at a lot of risk.

I suspect a lot of corner stores are going to get robbed for the booze. Then many corner stores will refuse to sell booze.
 
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GeeBee

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As non Ontarian I think it's a sad and slippery slope toward the demise of the LCBO and the huge revenue it generates for healthcare etc.. which seems to be the long term strategy for some reason.

Ontario has pretty damn good liquor and wine stores compared to other provinces, and they’re pretty plentiful. Fantastic selection, helpful staff, and clean well maintained stores. Throw all that away along with giving the profits to a corporate chain seems extremely short sighted.
 
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Ponderling

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I'm pretty sure hard liquor will always be distributed by the lcbo, I've never heard talk of that changing.
I concur. It is the retail LCBO check out staff, that are a small step over grocery clerks in responsibility, but paid a gob more, that I suspect are the real long term cost containment target here.
 

basketcase

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The province is getting the profits, by moving to convenience store sales they are making more sales of alcohol products and taking in more tax revenue.
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You do understand that the LCBO get the province tax on sales PLUS the corporate profits right? Meanwhile the chain convenience stores who get their corporate tax breaks are sending the money to their home offices in other countries.

And do you really think having booze in convenience stores is really going to make a significant increase in the amount people drink? Maybe being less expensive than in restaurants will mean more booze sold but since it is at lower price, it means lower amounts of taxes.
 
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GeeBee

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I'm pretty sure hard liquor will always be distributed by the lcbo, I've never heard talk of that changing.
I suspect this is a first step in the process for Ford, and that the long term goal is complete privatisation like Alberta. Stores are everywhere and prices can be lower, but some of the stores are dumps.
 
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maurice93

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As I was driving down the 401 yesterday in Eastern Ontario, and passing by a rest stop, I see a massive electronic billboard (30 feet by 40 feet is my guess) saying "BEER"... screen changed to say "BEER is now available here".

Making beer available at the corner store. OK, whatever.
But allowing beer to be sold at rest stops on the 401? And allowing it to be promoted on huge signs.

Lunacy.
 
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GeeBee

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As I was driving down the 401 yesterday in Eastern Ontario, and passing by a rest stop, I see a massive electronic billboard (30 feet by 40 feet is my guess) saying "BEER"... screen changed to say "BEER is now available here".

Making beer available at the corner store. OK, whatever.
But allowing beer to be sold at rest stops on the 401? And allowing it to be promoted on huge signs.

Lunacy.
It’s almost like no one in charge of this stupid policy cares about any consequences beyond blatant populist politics. What could possibly go wrong?? :rolleyes:
 
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