You have not produced one example of where I support killing children. I support eliminating Hamas.
Support of Israeli genocide costs Harris and the dems the election
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Michigan. In 2020 Biden got about 85% of the Muslim vote. Harris got about 15%
Here’s Just How Badly Democrats and Harris Pushed Muslim Voters Away
A new exit poll reveals how the Democratic Party has damaged its relationship with Muslim voters in 2024 thanks to its backing of Israel’s war on Gaza.
newrepublic.com
It was a total collapse. We are talking about 100,000's of votes. Trump is winning by 80,000 votes right now. Include the votes that went to Stein, more to Trump, and many that stayed home, and that 80,000 difference is easily identified just from an anti war stance.
There is your proof.
Now take the above, add in all the college kids, Muslims in other places, anti war voters. And look at her general vote collapse of what 15 million voters compared to 2020?
Economy, immigration and anti war were the big three this time. Given only 20% of voters as anti war and that's 3 million nationally spread over several close states.
It's there.
Michigan is a unique situation. But even there, there are multiple factors as to why people cast their votes. Blaming the loss in Michigan all because the single issue of Gaza is a stretch. But to claim that the whole election was lost because of Gaza in unfathomable. In this Gallup Poll Gaza/Hamas/Israel is not even mentioned. Terrorism is mentioned but that's a much, wider topic than the Gazan war.
Economy Most Important Issue to 2024 Presidential Vote
Economy Most Important Issue to 2024 Presidential Vote
Absolutely claiming it's the sole reason is ridiculous.
But I consider it one of the three pillars of the growing isolationism trend.
Anti war, anti immigration, anti free trade.
I don't think you can separate these issues in the overall mindset of the Trump voter. It is in fact a cohesive ideology that pundits don't want to acknowledge because it goes against the present western world group think. It is a throwback to the 1920's leading up to the 1930's.
Take a step back Shack. Don't just dismiss it out of hand but run it through a logic train. Go see what they are saying.
I know the very last thing you want is to have to admit that something you believe so passionately about was a contributing factor to the Trump win. But it seriously looks like it was. As a part of a greater whole Macro ideology that has risen up since 2008.
Thanks for your thoughtful and respectful post. I'm not as hardline as I appear. I'm actually a very reasonable guy. It's just that there are certain posts and disingenuous posters that I find offensive.
Check the numbers for the youth vote, Muslim voters and those who backed Abandon Harris.
Opinion | Democrats Ignored Gaza and Brought Down Their Party
The war in the Middle East has become this era’s most important progressive cause.
You support the killing of every child in Palestine then blame the victims of the genocide for the genocide.
Not once have you said its wrong to kill Palestinian children.
Israel's bombs, destruction of health care and campaign of starvation are killing the children of Gaza, not Hamas.
Blaming Hamas is your own personal rationale you use to justify killing children the way the nazis used to blame Jews, Roma and LGB TQ.
IPC Famine Review Committee Alert Gaza Strip (Published on 8 November 2024) - occupied Palestinian territory
Analysis in English on occupied Palestinian territory about Agriculture, Food and Nutrition and more; published on 8 Nov 2024 by IPC
You support eliminating Palestinians and don't differentiate between civilians or militants.
To you, killing women and children is the goal of 'eliminating Hamas'.
That is why when you see this chart you don't reflect with horror, you do a little happy dance.
Post one example where you said it is wrong that 12,000 children have died under Israeli bombs.
Prove that you don't support killing children by saying it.
Here's one case that should be easy for you.
Israelis shot 5 year old Hind Rajab 355 times and killed the ambulance workers who tried to rescue her after Israel killed her parents and trapped her in a car.
There is a wiki page, an AI recreation of the killing and multiple sources.
Say whether you think Israel was wrong to shoot this kid 355 times and see if you can answer without using the word 'Hamas'.
This is your chance to prove that you don't back killing children.
Killing of Hind Rajab - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
I already did.
You refuse to denounce the killing of any one of the 20,000 children Israel has killed.
Every single time.
Well, I wonder whether the Muslims did the right thing by even having a mayor endorsing Trump. Obviously, Trump played the bait and switch card to them, by appointing of all people Mike Huckabee as the Ambassador to Israel. Especially, after this is what Huckabee has said in the past:
Then Trump stated that Huckabee will do this:
More about Huckabee:
Then Trump stated that Huckabee will do this:
More about Huckabee:
You always go straight to racism.
Harris lost because of the youth vote, the Muslim vote and the Abandon Harris crowd that wouldn't cross the red line of voting for genocide.
But of course you want to blame 'the Arabs'.
AIPAC bought the dems and GOP, really the choice was between the perceived 100% hitler of trump and the 99% hitler of Harris and their support of genocide.
In that case the 100% hitler side always wins as there will always be people who refuse to vote for a hitler of any kind.
You realize that anyone who backed Harris can no longer say that they hate trump because he broke the law.
Once you decide that genocide is ok you lose all moral high ground.