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Butler1000 said:
I think there were a few that realized from the beginning it was inevitable this is where it would end up. And yes some wanted it. I think the majority initially just wanted a place to feel safe after the world had essentially turned their back.

Some Jews were trying to put this together pre WW 2 by buying up shitty property there(the locals were happy to sell it). But that would not have worked because they needed political and military support to really get it going. It's not like they came in strong. They were a very poor nation, had to have a lot of aid and socialist policy to get by. And in regular conflict.

Winning wars gave the nationalists the momentum to get where we are.
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Zionism, as far as I know had its beginnings in the late 1800s, Herzl the most significant writer.
The state of Israel is a Western construct, the U.S. and U.K. the main players, not surprising since the main oil producers were there.
Israel survived then and now because the western powers need Israel there, before to protect oil interests, and now to protect oil interests and
project U.S. geo-political interests in the region. Specifically to contain China.

Joe Biden says if Israel didn't exist, the US would have to invent one to protect US interests (youtube.com)

I totally get your angle on this conflict, it's a historical continuum of conflict. winners and losers, realpolitik in action.
But if that's the history of power, that everyone should just accept the inevitable without judgement, then no one is entitled to complain about their own suffering.
Netanyahu is not to be judged any different than any president, than Stalin, than Hitler, etc.
 
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And it's pointed exactly on target. Anti-Zionism is code for anti-Semitism for the cowards who are afraid to admit their true motivation. Just say that you hate Jews. It would give you some credibility.
Yet do nothing about it. Clearly they have no conviction. They refuse to back up their hollow rhetoric with any action. Nobody is helping in the conflict and nobody is helping the oppressed Gazans.
The difference between hating Zionists and hating Jews? You're right. I don't see a difference.

Let me know when you get tired of having your ass handed to you.
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Wrong, zionist is code for subhuman.

Subhumans that murder thousands of innocent people, torture and rape prisoners, starve populations, snipe children in the head, steal land from other people,
try to crush anyone who criticize them.
Zionists are are also subhumans that conspicuously distract from their atrocities, distract by not addressing West Bank atrocities
where there is no Hamas, distract by trying to make the discussion about anti-semitis.m.
Are you saying that all Jews are like this, subhuman?
I think YOU are a zionist, a subhuman, I don't think all Jews are.
Apparently you do.

Lol, you aren't handing anyone's ass to anyone...ever.
By the way let me know who your ghost writer is.
 
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mellowjello said:
Zionism, as far as I know had its beginnings in the late 1800s, Herzl the most significant writer.
The state of Israel is a Western construct, the U.S. and U.K. the main players, not surprising since the main oil producers were there.
Israel survived then and now because the western powers need Israel there, before to protect oil interests, and now to protect oil interests and
project U.S. geo-political interests in the region. Specifically to contain China.

Joe Biden says if Israel didn't exist, the US would have to invent one to protect US interests (youtube.com)

I totally get your angle on this conflict, it's a historical continuum of conflict. winners and losers, realpolitik in action.
But if that's the history of power, that everyone should just accept the inevitable without judgement, then no one is entitled to complain about their own suffering.
Netanyahu is not to be judged any different than any president, than Stalin, than Hitler, etc.
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In Britain in fact. Timeline is correct.

There is a great book called "Scars of War, Wounds of Peace". A very non partisan book on the history leading up to about the late 1980's. The parts about the Camp David Accords which brought the Americans into the sphere are really informative.
 
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mellowjello said:
Coming from a typical zionist,
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There's that code word again.
mellowjello said:
Wrong, zionist is code for subhuman.

Subhumans that murder thousands of innocent people, torture and rape prisoners, starve populations, snipe children in the head, steal land from other people,
try to crush anyone who criticize them.
Zionists are are also subhumans that conspicuously distract from their atrocities, distract by not addressing West Bank atrocities
where there is no Hamas, distract by trying to make the discussion about anti-semitis.m.
Are you saying that all Jews are like this, subhuman?
I think YOU are a zionist, a subhuman, I don't think all Jews are.
Apparently you do.

Lol, you aren't handing anyone's ass to anyone...ever.
By the way let me know who your ghost writer is.
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Stay triggered, my friend. Stay triggered.
 
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big104u said:
Tell me why innocent Jewish Canadians who have nothing to do with the war in Israel are being targeted by Jihadists and Marxist assholes in Canada?
When did it become normal and acceptable within Canadian borders for asshole Jihadists and Marxist fuckheads to harass Jewish students on Canadian campuses, burn and vandalize Canadian Jewish businesses and schools, as well as target Canadian synagogues?
Antisemitism is just as unjustified as Islamophobia in Canada. But there are many who disagree on this front.
Thankfully the asshole Jihadists and Marxist fuckheads are few and far between within Canadian borders. But they should be deported to a penal island to eat their own.
Most CANADIANS are peaceful and don't want to get caught up in the religious and political bullshit that has been ongoing for centuries.

But I am definitely thankful for all the Canadian veterans and their allies for fighting for the freedom and democracy of CANADA.
I come from a family of veterans who have served in many conflicts since world war 1.
I will always show my respect on Remembrance Day for their sacrifice for OUR peace in Canada. Let's keep it that way.
If you find this view unacceptable then go back to your rat hole and hide like the coward we all know you are.
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There is way more anti Palestinian violence going on in Canada and the US.
Way more racism against Palestinians.

zionists are not the victims

https://twitter.com/x/status/1825198711028228334
 
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Frankfooter said:
There is way more anti Palestinian violence going on in Canada and the US.
Way more racism against Palestinians.
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The world is tired of Palestinians exporting violence. That's why even countries like Egypt and Jordan don't want their refugees.
 
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